How has the time been at the Selkirk Mental Health Centre? Read full article. Summerville brought Li a Chinese meal, which they shared prior to the formal portion of the interview. Li was soft-spoken, using simple English as English is not his first language,” Summerville said. It was wrong.”. Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Li, leaves the Law Courts building in Winnipeg, after his annual criminal code review board hearing, on Monday, Feb. 6, 2017. The voices told me to kill him. I do not believe this now. The only thing that can be taken from this is that he was well-coached for his answers. If Vince Li could have been treated by a mental-health system, then none of this would have happened. Except, the voices I hear are not in my head. While Tim McLean's death was horrific and the grief of his family completely natural, a mental illness is as much an illness as cancer or heart disease and I cannot find it in myself to lay blame. Helping him with reality by instructing him in fantasy makes no sense to me. “There are no easy answers to the many-faceted questions that bombard both families and the media,” Summerville said. View Homework Help - Vince Li interview from HSCI 214 at Simon Fraser University. The latest updates on the novel coronavirus and COVID-19. Schizophrenia is treatable. I feel painful. The easy path is to condemn. “His answers were rather direct and succinct, revealing a person who has given much contemplation to this tragedy and his guilt.”. The result is that our system is overloaded with cases that should not be cases and this results in fewer resources for truly mentally ill people. The interview … It is very important. Read more about cookies here. If Vince Li had a heart attack he would have been treated — but Canada's broken mental-health system did not — and this is the reason we are even having this conversation! ", To quote an alien (Mr Spock): "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.". It is even more remarkable the positive effects of the medication. On February 27, 2014, CBC reported that on March 6, Li would be allowed to have unsupervised visits … Q. The voice told me that I was the third story of the Bible. People living with schizophrenia are more likely to be victims of violence rather than being perpetrators of violence. To submit a letter: Taking my medication. I wished I could reduce that pain.”. Li’s story needs to be told.”, “What we have here,” Summerville added in an email that accompanied the interview, “are two victims and two families who are victims of untreated, uncontrolled psychosis.”. It was wrong. Mental illness is an illness. This article was published 26/5/2012 (3274 days ago), so information in it may no longer be current. I would ask forgiveness, but I know it would be hard to accept.”. Most of them say the same thing, and that is: "keep Vince Li in custody. Vince Li, man in bus beheading, granted unsupervised passes to Winnipeg. Of the 300,000 people in Canada who live with some form of schizophrenia, the vast majority lead quiet, law-abiding lives hoping for some quality of life. They are the voices of other Manitobans and Canadians. The voice told me it was the third story of the Bible. I was to save people from a space-alien attack. My mother and father are still living. I bought it for any emergency for the journey to protect myself from the aliens. I have a real problem with Li being able to change his name if he gets out, when innocent people who are required to get criminal record checks for employment are FORCED to pay extra money and go through a fingerprinting process to make sure that THEY are not the criminal! • mail Letters to the Editor, 1355 Mountain Avenue, Winnipeg, Manitoba, R2X 3B6. I don’t want to do what I did ever again. I don’t believe in aliens. I feel tired a lot and I have gained some weight. We are, hopefully, a society that sees beyond a knee-jerk response. A. Readers subsequently provided us with their opinions. But I could not find a job in Canada. Share Embed ... A great interview to watch in order to understand the brain-chip-murderers... is Ventura questioning Dr. Robert Duncan: What is broken is the proliferation of 'illnesses,' which is due to the effort of the psychology and pharmaceutical industries to boost their bottom lines. Murder is murder no matter what state of mind you were in at the time. Li himself, in an interview with a representative of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada about the incident that has brought him infamy, said that while he was glad he was still alive, he still felt the RCMP should have killed him that night on the Greyhound bus – a night etched into his mind. A. When did you begin to experience schizophrenia? I try to follow God. Posted: 1:00 AM CDT Sunday, May. Yes. That i … I now know what it is. How would you know you were getting sick again? Vince Li says he remembers what happened on a Greyhound bus bound for Winnipeg during that midsummer's nightmare in 2008 when he beheaded Tim McLean. I have an older brother who is a businessman and a younger sister who is a secretary. Hey there, time traveller! I didn’t know at that time I had schizophrenia. Li also said he feels sorry for what he did and what it has done to McLean’s family. Vince Li is ill and coping with the aftermath of his own heinous act. “I try to forget it . Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, provided the Free Press with the text of an interview he conducted with bus beheader Vince Li… Yes, I understand their fear. WINNIPEG —Vince Li says he understands why people are still afraid of him. He provides leadership and oversight to an organization that has over 60 full- and part-time employees and 10 volunteers. I believed he was an alien. Q. Li's life work will be to help us understand this horrible disease. The interview was conducted Sunday at the Selkirk Mental Health Centre by Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, who said he has spoken with Li … A. I know that I suffer from schizophrenia. “I would do anything for their family. In 2012, four years after the murder, The National Post released an interview with Baker conducted by Chris Summerville, ... a Winnipeg citizen, to "overturn release of Vince Li." Vince Li is shown in a Portage La Prairie court Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2008. I am sure Charles Manson would be a sweetheart if you pumped him up with enough meds. You don’t know what is real. What else do you remember about the incident? image caption In an interview in 2012, ... Will Baker, formerly known as Vince Weiguang Li, killed 22-year-old Tim McLean after hearing what he thought was "the voice of God". In an interview, Li spoke for the first time, saying that he began hearing "the voice of God" in 2004 and that he wanted to save the people from an alien attack. In an interview, Li spoke for the first time, saying that he began hearing "the voice of God " in 2004 and that he wanted to save the people from an alien attack. I am sorry for the pain I have caused. A. I would be glad to be under a treatment order, because medication helps me. I am glad to be taking the medication. I should be under a treatment order. I wonder how much good "Bible study" is doing Vince Li? A. Due to Bobs physical disability and lack of education he was not able to find from HSCI 214 at Simon Fraser University The contents of the interview were supplied to the Winnipeg Free Press. 285 Views 1. JOHN WOODS / THE CANADIAN PRESS When released, Vince Li will probably be the most monitored schizophrenic in Canada. A. I don’t think so, that that should happen. Over the years at the fifth estate, we have profiled of some of Canada’s most haunting killers – we have probed their motives, their methods, their murders. I don’t think I will ever do it again. But you very rarely see repeat cases after somebody has been through the forensic psychiatric system - by its very nature, these professionals are risk averse. A. I believe in Jesus Christ. How does it make you feel that most people do not think you should get a pass to walk around in Selkirk? Introducing 5 FP Newsletters: Energy, Economy, Investor, Work and Finance, Financial Post: Introducing 5 Newsletters, Greyhound bus beheader Vince Li: ‘I don't hear voices’, tap here to see other videos from our team, executive director, Manitoba Schizophrenia Society certified psychosocial rehabilitation practitioner, ordained pastor with the Associated Gospel Churches of Canadanon-government director, Mental Health Commission of Canada, past chairman, Manitoba Provincial Advisory Council on Mental Health to the Minister of Health, past chairman, Alliance on Mental Illness and Mental Health in Manitoba, doctorate in theology, Dallas Theological Seminary. Terms and Conditions, Cookie and Privacy Policies. A. I should have been killed at that time. I can never forget the Greyhound bus. Q. But it was the schizophrenia. Up to 65 per cent will experience a degree of recovery in order to live a meaningful life. Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, provided the Free Press with the text of an interview he conducted with bus beheader Vince Li. Unlike Vince Li, I hear lots of voices. That he would kill me or others. In an 2012 interview with Summerville, Li said he had believed he was chosen by God to save people from an alien attack and later understood the voices he heard as schizophrenia. . JamesRoss - 285 Views. Summerville further explained why he had decided Li’s story should be part of the broader conversation on the not-criminally-responsible debate being driven, in part, by McLean’s mother, Carol de Delley, who is championing the so-called Tim’s Law, which would keep people judged not criminally responsible for a homicide confined for life. It is remarkable the insight Mr. Li has. I also have to have meaningful activity, something to do. I, Vince Li, under no duress or coercion, do give unconditional permission for Chris Summerville to share my story and to use any information I have given him in an interview conducted May 19, 2012, at Selkirk Mental Health Centre. The next issue of NP Posted will soon be in your inbox. Q. Bus 1170 Vince Li Greyhound Heterodyne-Murder-case 2008 brainchip assassination by zombie. Does this mean they should be freed? Li will remain in Selkirk until a review board judges him fit to be released. I feel nervous. In fact, any perpetrator of any crime would be harmless if sufficiently medicated. That there would be no voices. I now know that it was schizophrenia I was suffering from. If I could talk to her directly, I would do anything for their family. 0. A. I am embarrassed. A. The voices in his head are still there and are only hidden by the medication. . I would change my name to be anonymous. There was an error, please provide a valid email address. I have to learn how to handle stress. But I would still be in touch with my doctor. In 1992, Li graduated from University of Wuhan Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Science degree in … But now that he is medicated for his illness, he says the aliens he was afraid of have disappeared, the voices he heard are silent, and he is aware of why it happened on a different level. Sign up to receive the daily top stories from the National Post, a division of Postmedia Network Inc. A welcome email is on its way. A. I understand people are scared because of my behaviour on the Greyhound bus. It was totally wrong. Postmedia is committed to maintaining a lively but civil forum for discussion and encourage all readers to share their views on our articles. I suggest that you go and work one-on-one with people like Li and, perhaps bring him to your home for weekend visits. Q. If he gets out, let him continue his life as Vince LI! Some say the RCMP should have killed you that night. But I am thankful that the RCMP didn’t. Q. If you ever got out of the Selkirk Mental Health Centre, what would you do? Subscribe 149. Q. This is the interview conducted, edited and supplied by Summerville: A. I am a 44 years old and grew up in northeastern China in the province of Liaoning. My wife and I immigrated to Winnipeg, Canada, in June 2001. A selection of letters to the editor are published daily. Summerville and Li separately had to go through two sets of locked doors to meet in the foyer. Q. We apologize, but this video has failed to load. View Vince Li’s profile on LinkedIn, the world’s largest professional community. Do you believe you should be under a treatment order? I would call my doctor if I heard voices again. Ten per cent will take their life by suicide due to the losses associated with schizophrenia. In an interview with Chris Summerville, head of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, Li spoke for the first time saying that he began hearing "the voice of God" in 2004. Exercising and doing Bible study with the chaplain here. It is treatable. Do you understand why people are scared of you? As we ended the interview, I could see the moisture in Mr. Li’s eyes. I worked at McDonald’s, Meatland Foods and at Grant Memorial Baptist Church. I am glad to take it. What would you say to Ms. de Delley and Tim McLean’s family? I would ask forgiveness, but I know it would be hard to accept. At the very least he should serve a life sentence in a mental institution. I sleep too much. . Co-creator Peter Gould shares his excitement about Vince Gilligan returning to the writers room and the disappointment at stars Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seehorn missing out on noms. Up to 25 per cent of people who will have a psychotic break with reality will never experience another psychotic episode. “Mr. On May 19, 2012, I, Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, held my regular meeting with Vince Li, the person living with schizophrenia who beheaded Tim McLean. Our mental-health system is not broken. A. I am really sorry for what I did. has served as a pastor, chaplain, teacher, administrator and mental-health service provider in Canada and the U.S. He should remain locked away forever. We ask you to keep your comments relevant and respectful. Q. Balderdash. He says he remembers what happened on a Greyhound bus bound for Winnipeg during that midsummer’s nightmare in 2008. The interview was held in the foyer of Selkirk’s forensics unit. What are you learning? While Li's awareness of his crime is encouraging, it's important to never forget Tim McLean. Here is our interview with Heather Beem, a mechanical engineer and co-creator of solutions to global challenges. My heart goes out to Mr. Li and to Mr. McLean's family and friends; here there is only sorrow. He was now allowed to take supervised visits to the town square, and conduct interviews about his imprisonment and crime. I don’t think weird things. A. I don’t read the papers because I don’t want to be reminded of what happened on the Greyhound bus because it was so bad and wrong. It is painful to think about. Yes. I understand that this interview or parts of it about me may be published in the printed press or used in radio and television media. We encountered an issue signing you up. Any answers the public wouldn't like would have been edited out. © 2021 National Post, a division of Postmedia Network Inc. All rights reserved. Vince Li was found not criminally responsible due to mental illness for the death of Tim McLean. 'OK Vince, those voices in your head were part of your mental illness. Letters are edited for length and clarity. She is the CEO/Founder of Practical Education Network, […] October 27, 2017 November 27, 2018 Vince Li sat in isolation in the Selkirk Mental Health Centre in Selkirk, Manitoba for three years, until his doctors granted him access to the outside world. And yet, I also ask, ‘What if it had been my son who had killed Tim McLean in such a ghastly and grotesque fashion?’ I hope that such self-questioning softens my response to the many questions I have been asked about my personal and professional knowledge of Mr. Li.”. He was granted temporary passes last week by a review board to take supervised walks in Selkirk. I began to hear voices that normal people do not hear. No. Hearing voices, stopping my medication and starting to believe in aliens. Everyone stared, and tittered with relief when he walked on. How do we know you will take your medication when you get out on your own? The interview was conducted Sunday at the Selkirk Mental Health Centre by Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, who said he has spoken with Li once every two months, on average, since Li’s confinement began nearly four years ago. Please try again. A. I bought a knife at Canadian Tire. Li states "I don't think I will do it again," which means he COULD do it again. Letters must include the writer’s full name, address, and a daytime phone number. I don’t have any weird voices anymore. • fill out the form on this page, or . In an interview with a schizophrenia society, Vince Weiguang Li said he had heard what he believed was "the voice of God" before killing Tim McLean, 22. That's one of the reasons we don't have victims or victims' families determining punishment. With Li’s written permission, Summerville released the “formal” portion of the 45-minute interview because, the Winnipeg-based mental-health executive said, he feels “Mr. God would not tell me to do something bad. It is hearing voices or having delusions. I take my medication, Olanzapine, every day. A. Why did you do what you did on the bus? By continuing to use our site, you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Do you understand their fear? The Schizophrenia Society of Canada released an interview with Vince Li on Tuesday, saying Li's story needs to be told to "add a human touch to a horrible tragedy." In 2004. 1 'I DON'T HEAR VOICES' Winnipeg Free PressTue May 22 2012Page: B1Byline: Gordon Sinclair Jr. Vince Li understands A. Unauthorized distribution, transmission or republication strictly prohibited. If you don't see it please check your junk folder. Q. Now I do. He should resign himself to this fact. A. A. I would like to say to Tim McLean’s mother “I am sorry for killing your son. Q. A. I try to forget it. Vince Li has granted an interview to Chris Summerville, head of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, who says Mr. Li has been treated unfairly by the public and the media. Q. I am not sure of all the places I went to. An eyewitness describes the attack and beheading of a Greyhound bus passenger near Winnepeg, Manitoba. I was really scared. That is why I travelled around the country. We have enabled email notifications—you will now receive an email if you receive a reply to your comment, there is an update to a comment thread you follow or if a user you follow comments. Mr … I didn’t know what it was. Q&A with Greyhound bus beheader Vince Li | National Post 365 Bloor Street East, Toronto, Ontario, M4W 3L4. Yes. “However, I think the media have been more favourable to the McLean family, probably because public sentiment is on their side and we as a country have entered a period of ‘tough on crime,’ with little attention paid to restorative justice, rehabilitation, recovery and redemption, or the influence and role of mental illness in this particular most unfortunate incident.”, Summerville also added this: “Before I do any interview regarding the Greyhound bus tragedy, I always ask myself, ‘What if it had been my 25-year-old daughter?’, “My sympathy to Ms. de Delley and her family is real. Vince Brancaccio, M.S.S.A., LI.S.W-S Vince Brancaccio became Chief Executive Officer of Help Hotline, Inc. in 2014 and oversaw the change of the agency’s name to Help Network of Northeast Ohio two years later. That I was like the second coming of Jesus. A. I feel nervous. The Winnipeg Free Press invites you to share your opinion on this story in a letter to the editor. Recovery is possible. I am embarrassed. INTERVIEW WITH A KILLER: VINCE LI SPEAKS. [30] On February 27, 2014, the CBC reported that on March 6, Li will be allowed to have unsupervised visits to … He is my saviour. Born Vince Weiguang Li April 30, 1968 (age 48) Dandong, China Nationality Naturalized Canadian (Chinese descent) Other names Will Baker Occupation Menial Worker Known for Killing of Tim McLean Vince Weiguang Li, was born in Dandong, Liaoning, China, on April 30, 1968. Comments may take up to an hour for moderation before appearing on the site. I thought I heard the voice of God telling me to write down my journey. I need to take medication on time. My thinking is becoming normal. Vince Li is not the first person with mental illness to have committed a serious crime and he won't be the last. The treatment team gives me a chance to recover, to be normal. I still believe that. I had studied as a computer engineer for four years in China. 27, 2012. https://mysteriesrunsolved.com/2020/11/killing-of-timothy-mclean.html That this interview was conducted and edited by a person responsible for his treatment pretty well renders it meaningless. A. I should be here. I try to stay busy here. Do you have side-effects from the medication? A. I hope to leave one day, but I have to make sure it wouldn’t happen again. This website uses cookies to personalize your content (including ads), and allows us to analyze our traffic. —statement from Vince Li provided by Chris Summerville. What is schizophrenia? I sinned. . ... to conduct a 45-minute interview with Li last weekend with … Be part of the solution instead of making a blanket generalization that you do not know to be factual. Q. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. I don’t hear voices. Vince has 5 jobs listed on their profile. Q. They know about the Greyhound bus situation, but my mother and father do not. He had reported in his interview with Summerville; “I thought I heard the voice of God telling me to write down my journey. What do you think of Tim’s Law, that any mentally insane person who kills someone would never be released? I feel painful. I am not at risk for anybody. Li spoke those words last weekend when, for the first time in the nearly four years since he made international headlines for the horrifying psychosis-induced beheading of fellow Greyhound passenger Tim McLean, Li granted a full-length interview for release to the media. • email letters@freepress.mb.ca, or It was my fault. Q. Visit our Community Guidelines for more information and details on how to adjust your email settings. The voices in our heads are religion.'. This took 10 months for me to become a certified teacher. I … My schizophrenia is not the real me, but it is an illness. Q. 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